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#204185 - 05/27/04 09:50 PM Office 2004 and earlier: Tips on free, expert help
nnager Offline
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Registered: 01/20/01
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I must have accidentally deleted my original post on this while editing it a week ago, because I could not find it when I started to refer somebody in another thread to the resources. I sent the same counsel to my Mac user group colleagues and just copied and pasted that here.

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Because I've been there all too often, I empathized with some of the Microsoft Office questions and problems I've seen posted here and at other forums. I scan the questions and responses to see what I can learn if ever I should have a similar issue. But I've been guilty of not sharing a couple tips that have been invaluable to me over the years and different versions of Office. By the way, my only relationship to Microsoft is as a consumer.

TIP #1: Office for Mac Newsgroups

I've found the Office MVPs (volunteer experts who are frequent contributors) exceptionally helpful in the several Office Newsgroups for Mac. (I've received valuable info in them since Office 2004 came out.) I scan those newsgroups that concern me most several times a week and copy and paste into Entourage Notes useful scraps of info I pick up from some of the responses. I do searches when I have a problem, and *post questions when the searches don't yield info for my particular need.

microsoft.public.mac.office
microsoft.public.mac.office.entourage
microsoft.public.mac.office.word
microsoft.public.mac.office.excel
etc.

Each of these newsgroups can be accessed via Entourage Mail.
When I had a problem one day with Entourage working in the early Office X days, I discovered one can reach these newsgroups with a browser at: http://www.microsoft.com/mac/community/community.aspx?pid=newsgroups

*One lesson I learned the hard way about posting questions on an Office newsgroup is to [u]alter your return address[/u] on postings to these newsgroups so that you don't end up on a lot of mailing lists by spammers and pranksters (or any of the robotic address grabbers). Typical email address altering example: <'myname@nospam.aol.com> or some garbling of letters in the added word after the @ symbol.

TIP #2: MVP and other Office FAQs

I may start my search here sometimes, rather in the Newsgroups.
One can begin a search after clicking the Office support tab at the MacTopia url
http://www.microsoft.com/mac/default.aspx

But I frequently find it quicker to go directly to the FAQs, particularly the webpages created by some of the MVP volunteers

I'm partial to the MVP volunteer experts because some of their pointers are "out of the box" and because I respect the independence of the MVPs, who are not afraid to speak up, even if not towing the company line.

Here's a place to start: http://www.mvps.org/

After that, however, one may have to use a browser other than Safari to access a given MVP site.

For instance, all I can get with Safari on my machine when I click on the MVPs' Word FAQs link is a blank page. If I enter the same url http://word.mvps.org/ in Internet Explorer, I can see the FAQs.

A valuable site for Entourage can be accessed with Safari:
http://www.entourage.mvps.org/

Some individuals' sites, are very valuable, such as Excel tips at
http://mvps.org/dmcritchie/excel/excel.htm
or
http://www.mcgimpsey.com/excel/

Tip #3: Free Tech Support Calls After Purchase

Here's another tip: after buying Office, one gets at least one free Tech Support call. I don't know how up-to-date the info is because I think I copied it a year or more ago from a Microsoft website page, but here's a note I pasted in my iData Pro X phone dialer/phonebook/notekeeper:

In reply to:

If you purchased this (Office) product at a retail store, you are eligible for unlimited no-charge Installation Support and two no-charge Personal Support incidents. Personal Support is designed to provide support for everyday product usage to help U.S. consumers, home users, home office customers who use Microsoft consumer products."




Respectfully, Norm


Edited by Ockham (05/28/04 12:28 PM)

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#204186 - 05/28/04 04:19 AM Re: Office 2004 and earlier: Tips on free, expert help [Re: nnager]
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Your post is very, very valuable. I have printed the entire page and saved it with the links in case I need it. Thanks for some great information.
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#204187 - 05/28/04 05:40 AM Re: Office 2004 and earlier: Tips on free, expert help [Re: nnager]
Ockham Offline
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No, you're not losing it. It wasn't deleted. You might recall that I moved it to the OS X Hints and Tips forum so it wouldn't get lost in the fray here in the Office X forum.

Here's the original

Rather than screw around this time, I've made this post a sticky. Hopefully, the forum software wont act up and it will stick.

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#204188 - 08/22/05 07:02 AM Re: Office 2004 and earlier: Tips on free, expert [Re: nnager]
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Registered: 07/27/04
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Here are a few more excellent sites, although often directed to Windows OFfice, they are 90% compatabile with Mac versions (Pivot Tables, Pivot Charts, ActiveX Controls, and some VBA Reference Libraries are areas of differences).

Office

Office Articles Forums

Woody's Lounge


Excel

Mr Excel

Ozgrid

VBA Express - a Mac section included


Excel specials

Andy Pope MS MVP - chart specialist

Jon Peltier MS MVP - chart specialist


Spreadsheet Design

New Guidelines for Spreadsheets

Decision Models

Spreadsheet Ideas for Business



Databases (any kind)

DB Forums


Hope this proves as helpful for others as it has for me.
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#204189 - 03/16/06 11:35 AM Link to version 11.2.3 Spotlight use tips [Re: nnager]
nnager Offline
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There are some valuable posts in Spotlight-related threads in the Entourage Newsgroup. Among the most helpful I found were those posted by Andy Ruff, who is with the Microsoft Mac Business Unit (BU). But there are other valuable tips on how to get Spotlight to work well from MVPs (volunteer experts)

I found two very valuable Spotlight-Entourage links among others on new features of the version11.2.3 update here: ]Link to MVP Entourage support page with several links that I found most helpful in my understanding and command of Spotlight use with Entourage

The Entourage Newsgroup keeps somewhat ahead of the above FAQ sites, so I prefer to watch both and copy info I might be able to use into my Entourage Notes.


Edited by nnager (03/16/06 11:37 AM)

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#204190 - 03/16/06 05:23 PM Re: Link to version 11.2.3 Spotlight use tips [Re: nnager]
Ockham Offline
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Norm, thank you for the addition. The link on the MVP page you referenced to the new Sync Services is also an invaluable must read for those updating to 11.2.3.

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#204191 - 03/22/06 12:57 PM Website down: Google to cached Entourage MVPs info [Re: nnager]
nnager Offline
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Aaaaagh! The volunteer who created and nurtured the Entourage MVPs Help Page closed down her webpage. I had thought that it belonged to either the group of MVP volunteers or to Microsoft. I guess I was wrong. Now, when I go to "http://www.entourage.mvps.org" it brings up:
In reply to:

The Entourage Help Page has been discontinued.

I am searching for a new host for the site.





But all the information that was there has been cached at Google, I discovered in the Entourage Newsgroup.

I just adapted (made it clearer for me) the following from a post in the Entourage Newsgroup and saved it as a Note with a couple keywords in the title that would help me retrieve it the next time I need to search for information on what used to be the Entourage MVPs Help Page:

"Entourage MVP site searches via Google-cached information"

In reply to:

Enter into Google search box my keyword followed by a space and then site:entourage.mvps.org

Example if searching for "Tasks":
tasks site:entourage.mvps.org

This brings up (in a search just on "Tasks":
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=tasks+site:entourage.mvps.org&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

From there, I can go to info on any Tasks topic, but I then must click on the word Cached -- not the link itself




Respectfully, Norm


Edited by nnager (03/22/06 01:18 PM)

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#204192 - 03/22/06 01:35 PM New/re-tooled blog on Entourage covers Spotlight + [Re: nnager]
nnager Offline
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Registered: 01/20/01
Posts: 1056
It took some time for me to find information on how to work with Spotlight since the update to Entourage 11.2.3 and the demise of the volunteer-maintained Entourage MVPs Help Page where a Microsoft Mac Business Unit employee had posted the information.

Happily, I discovered Spotlight how-to info and a lot more on Entourage in a re-tooling/updating of an Entourage blog:

http://blogs.msdn.com/entourage/

So, for the latest on Entourage 11.2.3, I now either go to the blog or the Entourage Newsgroup.

Respectfully, Norm

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#204193 - 03/23/06 12:15 AM Good news: Entourage MVPs Help Page back online [Re: nnager]
nnager Offline
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Diane Ross and the excellent webpage support she created and nurtered as a volunteer are back online. This time, it looks like she will have more support, as indicated in the following March 22, 2006, Entourage Newsgroup post by Andy Ruff of the Microsoft Mac Business Unit:

In reply to:

As of now, the site is back online. We're still going to be working with
Diane, the MVPs, and the rest of the user community to see how we might go
about insuring that such a valuable resource continues indefinitely.

-Andy
Andy Ruff
MacBU Program Management




After reading the good news, I cheerfully restored this valuable Entourage support bookmark to Safari!

http://www.entourage.mvps.org/

Respectfully, Norm


Edited by nnager (03/23/06 12:16 AM)

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#204194 - 10/19/06 03:23 PM Re: Office 2004 and earlier: Tips on free, expert [Re: nnager]
dwwave Offline
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Registered: 08/29/04
Posts: 154
Loc: Ohio
nnager,

Great referance tool
Many Thanks
David
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