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#275406 - 06/14/06 08:50 AM Re: Warning - Archive & Install 10.3 over 10.4 [Re: Virtual1]
Daryl Wilson Offline
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Registered: 09/20/03
Posts: 1
Too late! I screwed up by doing this.
I have a exact copy of 10.3.9 saved on an external drive using retrospect express and need to understand how to restore it to my start up disk.
I think I should do a clean re-install 10.3.9 using the reformat option. Afterwards, can I drag and drop the saved copy to restore my HD to the original state before installing Tiger. I am concerned about the permissions isssues with drag and dropping the backup copy. I'm so confused....!? Help, please.

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#275407 - 06/14/06 09:36 AM Re: Warning - Archive & Install 10.3 over 10.4 [Re: Daryl Wilson]
Virtual1 Offline
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Registered: 01/20/01
Posts: 10527
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The way I would fix this if I were you is to insert the 10.3.5 CD, set it as the startup disk, move all the items in Applications into a new folder ("Applications 10.4") then restart, which should boot to the 10.3.5 CD, and do another archive and install of 10.3.5.

This will fix your application problems, but will not fix your netinfo database. I don't know how safe it will be to go in and delete the "clamav" and other dozen or so new tiger system accounts, particularly if you intend to upgrade to 10.4 later. (could create unusable system accounts and break stuff) Best to leave those alone I think.

You could also use Pacifist to extract and install the correct applications off the 10.3.5 CD but I don't know how well that will work.
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#275408 - 10/19/06 10:28 PM Re: Warning - Archive & Install 10.3 over 10.4 [Re: Virtual1]
Danihilist Offline
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Registered: 10/01/04
Posts: 5
Good post.
Never went to Tiger. Too many glitches. Waiting for 3rd or 4th generation of the next OS. Still content with OS X3.8.
X39 sucked(s).
Can't go back, like you say, without losing stuff. Important stuff.

Nuff said.

Waiting on the next OS and it's improvements. Without Intel and any Microsoft stuff.
Ipods with viruses now?
eMacs 1 G and 700 M both on OS X 3.8 and happy.
Read the hacker and security reports people. Please.

Dan O.


Edited by Danihilist (10/19/06 10:31 PM)

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#275409 - 10/27/06 07:52 AM Re: Warning - Archive & Install 10.3 over 10.4 [Re: Danihilist]
rahja Offline
MacAuthor

Registered: 11/09/01
Posts: 1921
Loc: Vermont
In reply to:


Good post.
Never went to Tiger. Too many glitches. Waiting for 3rd or 4th generation of the next OS. Still content with OS X3.8.
X39 sucked(s).
Can't go back, like you say, without losing stuff. Important stuff.

Nuff said.

Waiting on the next OS and it's improvements. Without Intel and any Microsoft stuff.
Ipods with viruses now?
eMacs 1 G and 700 M both on OS X 3.8 and happy.
Read the hacker and security reports people. Please.

Dan O.




uh, sure.
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#275410 - 10/27/06 04:28 PM Re: Warning - Archive & Install 10.3 over 10.4 [Re: rahja]
Danihilist Offline
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Registered: 10/01/04
Posts: 5
Thanks, Roger, for the thoughtful and thought provoking reply.
I hope this is not indicative of most replies on this site.

Dan

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#275411 - 10/28/06 03:42 AM Re: Warning - Archive & Install 10.3 over 10.4 [Re: Danihilist]
artie505 Offline
MacWizard

Registered: 03/27/03
Posts: 6055
Well... At least it was was coherent and explicit.

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#275412 - 10/30/06 01:58 PM Re: Warning - Archive & Install 10.3 over 10.4 [Re: artie505]
Danihilist Offline
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Registered: 10/01/04
Posts: 5
Hmm. Really.
Thanks Artie, for your 2 cents.

Maybe these will help with the explanation you gave of your and Roger's replies.

Coherent:

adj 1: marked by an orderly, logical, and aesthetically consistent relation of parts; "a coherent argument" [ant: incoherent] 2: capable of thinking and expressing yourself in a clear and consistent manner; "a lucid thinker"; "she was more coherent than she had been just after the accident" [syn: logical, lucid] 3: sticking together; "two coherent sheets"; "tenacious burrs" [syn: tenacious]

WordNet ® 2.0, © 2003 Princeton University


Explicit:

adj 1: precisely and clearly expressed or readily observable; leaving nothing to implication; "explicit instructions"; "she made her wishes explicit"; "explicit sexual scenes" [syn: expressed] [ant: implicit] 2: in accordance with fact or the primary meaning of a term [syn: denotative]

WordNet ® 2.0, © 2003 Princeton University

On-line Medical Dictionary, © 1997-98 Academic Medical Publishing & CancerWEB

If Roger (or you) could have asked questions about my reply to the first poster, that would seem intelligent. Nobody else had anything to say about my post. Maybe they go by the 'rule' of not saying anything if you have nothing nice to say. Albeit my comment about Tiger.

My apologies for not being as technically adept with computers as you all. I entered this site a couple years ago for help. That doesn't seem to be the case for this site as far as people that have no Mac friends near them and learn on their own.

Off to friendlier help sites. Fortunately they are aplenty.
Best wishes,
Dan


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#275413 - 10/30/06 02:13 PM Re: Warning - Archive & Install 10.3 over 10.4 [Re: Danihilist]
rahja Offline
MacAuthor

Registered: 11/09/01
Posts: 1921
Loc: Vermont
sorry, Dan, I jumped in here late, and just saw your post deriding Tiger. I have experienced none of the problems you mention, and I'm guessing that many (most) don't either. your post appeared to be a rant about 10.4, and I sarcastically disagreed. you offered no explanation of the terribleness of Tiger, just how bad it was. frankly, I wouldn't go back to anything previous. well, maybe if you paid me large sums of money, or bought me presents...

this is a friendly place, full of experienced and willing people.

punch, poke, buy you a Coke.®
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#275414 - 10/30/06 02:24 PM Re: Warning - Archive & Install 10.3 over 10.4 [Re: rahja]
rahja Offline
MacAuthor

Registered: 11/09/01
Posts: 1921
Loc: Vermont
Good post.

more than a year old.

Never went to Tiger. Too many glitches. Waiting for 3rd or 4th generation of the next OS. Still content with OS X3.8.

glitches? such as?

X39 sucked(s).

not in my experience. much faster, and more stable than 10.3.8

Can't go back, like you say, without losing stuff. Important stuff.

true, but, isn't that always the case?

Nuff said.

apparently not.

Waiting on the next OS and it's improvements. Without Intel and any Microsoft stuff.

going to be waiting a looong time.

Ipods with viruses now?

probably. there are millions of them out there.

eMacs 1 G and 700 M both on OS X 3.8 and happy.

great!

Read the hacker and security reports people. Please.

better stay away from computers, then. build it and they will come.


yeah, I'm having a lousy day, too....
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#275415 - 10/31/06 12:19 AM Re: Warning - Archive & Install 10.3 over 10.4 [Re: Danihilist]
artie505 Offline
MacWizard

Registered: 03/27/03
Posts: 6055
> Coherent:

adj 1: marked by an orderly, logical, and aesthetically consistent relation of parts; "a coherent argument" [ant: incoherent] 2: capable of thinking and expressing yourself in a clear and consistent manner; "a lucid thinker"; "she was more coherent than she had been just after the accident" [syn: logical, lucid] 3: sticking together; "two coherent sheets"; "tenacious burrs" [syn: tenacious]

WordNet ® 2.0, © 2003 Princeton University

Explicit:

adj 1: precisely and clearly expressed or readily observable; leaving nothing to implication; "explicit instructions"; "she made her wishes explicit"; "explicit sexual scenes" [syn: expressed] [ant: implicit] 2: in accordance with fact or the primary meaning of a term [syn: denotative]

WordNet ® 2.0, © 2003 Princeton University


Had you considered all that while you were writing your initial post...and, by the way, the thrust of V1's post, the one that inspired yours, is that you CAN go back, losing absolutely NOTHING in the process, as long as you know the correct procedure.

In closing... Perhaps you ought to reread that post of yours; it reads as if it was written by a completely different individual than the one who wrote your last coupla posts.

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